Wonder if Ford have it in the pipeline to offer an electric Bronco. I think they have a real chance to get ahead of the other brands in EV truck/suv market.
in 1970 ford did the same by putting a omen generetor under the hood, not real common so rly rare to find one lol. but i think they just reflected on that idea
What about the tax break? Is it happening if not I'm canceling my reservation.
Anyone heard about via motors? I think they have The best practical solution, as they use the combustion engine and electric motor technology in their respective peak efficiency modes. Combustion engine at fixed RPM / load to run the generator to create range extending electricity when the battery gets low and electric motors to move the silvarado ute or suburban wagon with insane torque.
It needs an on the trunk shifter save all the money and remove the cheap pop up shifter that will break and people will be amazed the replacement cost
So you can tow a trailer for like 2 hours then what? Sit at a charging station for a day? That’s 300 mile range at the best without towing so I can’t imagine towing range haha
Mid 4 seconds gonna be dope.
hey doug love u channel but my mom thinks your crazy ?
Didn't know Jay Leno had a son called Doug
The advantage of gasoline/diesel cars is that the tank fills up very fast. The disadvantage is that it can only be refueled at gas stations. - The advantage of electric cars is that they can be recharged virtually everywhere. The disadvantage is that recharging takes much longer than gasoline/diesel vehicles.
The most compelling feature is the low ledge on the frunk. All other frunks are just a pit in which it would be hell to haul out your Yeti. Not so with this biggie. Just slide it in and out.
Super crew only, no 8’ bed. Killed my interest.
Can’t wait for the review
Too bad you ain't Chinese. A GM one cost 9500.00 there. Get out the vasiline.🙀😢😥, cause apparently all Americans are rich. Our country has gone to he'll. Especially if you're on ssi.
For $50k, I could get grid power on my land and a bit of diesel fuel for the old 6.5 turbo Chevy, or I could get a Lightning and solar, use the Lightning as my battery bank and logging rig...that torque has me wanting a dually configuration though, even the diesel is no torque compared to electric.
Wow big deal I cant get one till 2024 because there is no infrastructure to support demand and they dont have the battery production to support that dilemma anyone posting anything different on SLcd is getting their dick sucked by ford with a new vehicle they otherwise could never attain as a regular consumer. This is shameless marketing bullshit. I am better off with an F-150 ICE at least I know they will be available and dirt cheap due to Fords marketing blunder known as the Osborne Effect. You would think that Ford with a 9m billion bailout from taxpayers would do better but not when you have Fords top tier megalomaniac zealots vampiring the company into oblivion with tens of millions in salaries to reward their failures. Ford needs to die.
For my business, the Frunk and all of the other space, back seat and cargo area, it will make all the difference for me. I’ll be able to use it like a small van, which I have now (Nissan NV). It seems like the fuel or energy costs will be cut by 2/3rds so am hoping the savings here will help to justify the bigger price.
Was so excited you made a video for this bc I have to write about it and love your takes!! Thanks!
As a truck owner that actually uses it for work, this vehicle looks great in every way EXCEPT the range… I’m in the group that needs long distance capabilities (I NEED something capable of going at least 800km in a single day). So until range and faster charging is more available, people like me are out. BUT, hopefully Ford has success and the technology keeps improving quickly.
TL:DR - enjoy owning this EV Truck! But sell your Ford stock! Expensive. Probably worth it ... unless you put big miles on your truck or have to haul with a trailer for any real distance. But even at twice the price, Ford won't see much profit off this because of two reasons : 1) Not enough batteries for volume production and 2) Not enough batteries to bring battery costs down to size.
8:23 So f-150 is a carefully designed truck that truck people can use to do truck stuff and people can afford But cybertruck is a lifestyle truck that people can’t use to do truck stuff 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂 What specific truck stuff can f150 do that cybertruck can’t do would be the million dollar question Affordability too: f150 costs $40k -$80k Cyber $40k - $70k Again, why people can afford f150 but CANT afford cyber?
Ford's gotten too expensive. I need something affordable and practical.
Doug, you are a legacy auto shill.
You'll never see the $40K model.
Ha ha ha, a Ram 3500 is slightly over $36,000 for better and bigger performance. Theirs reasons I like Ram, that's one.
Sorry Doug. You drank the kool aid. as far as powering your house is not as simple as to driving your Ford into the garage and plugging it it. Trucks are DC homes are AC. An inverter and isolation switch are necessary. Charging... Tesla superchargers provide 47kw until the 90% level, Ford drops to 11% at 80% You touched on versatility of having usable power at thejob site, but that eats KW too. Tesl truck will have a compressor, not only for ride height, but for powering air tools. There are many more that could be id'd but study the real differences spec to spec, nd you will put aside the kool aid.
I have to give you a Doug score of 42 for this review
This is misinformation. $40k for the standard battery commercial model. The cheapest long range model consumers can get will be around $62k.
Would like to hear your opinion on the Jeep Wrangler 4Xe?
hey, Doug can you do a video about the original vw bug from the 60s-70s pretty please!!!
Finally someone gets it and just electrifies a current generation model vehicle (of whatever type) instead of creating a whole new vehicle.
Ford themselves may believe they are able to convince people to go electric with their trucks, but I don’t know if dealers will be incentivized enough to push them. Current dealers make a lot of money on service after purchase and part of the benefits being pushed currently is how little regular maintenance electric vehicles need. So if you are a dealer, what benefit is it to you to push people to buy the lightning when the gas truck is $5000 cheaper in comparison (making it easier to sell) and will almost guarantee a continual source of income with regular oil changes and whatnot. I love the truck but I haven’t heard many people talk about this
I think your absolutely correct about towing range. Right now, 1/2 - 3/4 ton electric pick-ups are not suitable for towing long range. As a utility truck, I think Ford checked all the boxes. I am ready to test drive one.
I can’t help but think what parts BEV pickups DON’T have. Catalytic converters, driveshafts, rear ends, transfer cases, belts, engine and transmission sensors, etc. Leadership of these parts supplier need to be pivoting ASAP. Except for replacement parts their will be no market in the future. As a BEV owner all can this: once you try a great BEV you will never go back to a fossil fueled vehicle again.
Doug Correction 300 miles is estimated with the a tow load of 10k .. estimated range with out towing is around 450 miles
Bruh only 10k tow and only 300 hundred miles range yeah lemme just go to Safeway and pack tow my big wheel
I guess Ford Motor Company has decided to try and relive past glory by "bringing new tech to the every man". Worked once, I guess we'll see if lightning strikes twice.
I've seen real Rivians (albiet company trucks) on the road in Palm Springs. Several people already have their build concierge. I expect to see owners trucks on the road in July. One month late ain't bad given a global panini.
Tesla ugly truck you could make with plywood and a Skill saw. Now tesla has REAL competition so how will their dated unchanged looking cars even hope to compete? I'm not a Ford guy but it's far better than a Tesla fold and glue shaped body of their truck. I've seen better Origami than Tesla.
FORD WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET ENOUGH BATTERIES AND CAN ONLY MAKE 50K MACHE ES THIS YEAR. HOW MANY F150S DO YOU THINK THEY CAN MAKE WHICH USES 2X THE BATTERIES IN IT. TESLA WITH ITS BATTERY SUPPLY WILL BE ABLE TO SELL 1 MILLION WHILE FORD CAN ONLY MAKE 50K-100K IF THEY ARE LUCKY.
TESLAS ALL HAVE FRONT TRUNKS. TESLA CAN SEND POWER BACK WITH UPDATES PROBABLY IN NEW VEHICLES COMING OUT IN THE FUTURE. PROBABLY THE CYBERTRUCK. IT ALSO HAS INVERTERS ANYWAY.
THE 70K CYBERTRUCK ALSO COMES WITH OVER 500 MILES OF RANGE SO TOWING STILL LEAVES YOU 250 MILES OR MORE AND THE NEW LEAKS SHOW OVER 600 MILES.
DOUG GET YOUR INFORMATION STRAIGHT. THE 50K DUAL MOTOR CYBERTRUCK WILL BE COMING OUT WITH THE TRI MOTOR. IT IS THE 40K THAT WILL BE A LITTLE LATER, BUT PROBABLY AROUND WHEN THE FORD COMES OUT ANYWAY WHICH IS NOT UNTIL NEXT YEAR. THE CYBERTRUCK ALSO COMES WITH INCLUDED AIR SUSPENSION WHICH THE FORD DOES NOT WHICH GIVES BETTER HANDLING AND WEIGHT CONTROL.
Tesla is not a car company, they are an energy company!! Just like VW, BMW, GM, FORD, AUDI and Volvo are not car companies. THEY ARE BIG OIL COMPANIES!!!!! Go ahead and buy one if you don't give a shit about your kid's future.
and cybertruck is butt fugly I am really excited to see this on the market too. Revolutionary is a big word, but this might be rev-lite
Doug is correct, this is the best utilitarian & most affordable EV truck. Will probably b my choice of EV truck. My question is, how will it’s AWD features perform off road or in mid to high snow depths vs a gasoline F150 4wd features??? Doug, maybe u can explain that on ur next update on the Lightning!!!???
This is gonna be the most important EV of the next few years
That marketing pic of the truck being loaded with lumber that costs more than the value of the truck itself haha.
So apparently the range is based on the EPA and it's also based on having a thousand pounds being towed as per Marquez brownie video
This and the Honda e are the only EVs I think are good ideas. The Honda cuz it just fits city life and it’s a cool design. This because it looks well thought out. Hummer and Cybertruck are garbage. This F150 seems ok for a local fleet truck. I wouldn’t want it if I hauled stuff, or drive a lot of miles.
I'm sure this guy said a lot of interesting stuff, but all I can pay attention to is Alabama 69.
Hmm...I'm intrigued, but 3 days to charge? That baffles me. Maybe we need a network of 3 phase chargers. Also, I have a 300+ mile trip I take 1-2 times per month. Can I get a hybrid version with a generator?
Ford is committed to maintaining its truck dominance in the market with this launch. What a beauty!
This new lightning has me thinking... why isnt their an e-bronco? that would be sicker than sick. '
In 2001 futurists thought gwiz renault twizzy would be the future. Welcome to the future ,closed frunk crew cab body four wheel drive rear loading bay monstrosity
Only 5.5' bed is disappointing
Ford F-150 Lightning will be the EV truck of choice.
Who gives a f what the name is!
The real story is 80% less fuel cost and much more power and charge in your home overnight
The sound in your garage is horrible, fyi.
I can't speak for others, but as an original Lightning truck owner I wonder why FORD would use an ICONIC name plate, Lightning, on what appears to be a future standard production truck offering. Makes me wonder if they could revive and change other name plates such as Thurnderbolt for a performance/Limited truck package Scheme. Over the years performance enthusiasts got tired of waiting for a V8 ranger, a Supercharged Adrenalin and other possible hints that Ford made during annual car shows. The loss of variety will eventaully make potential customers look else where.
Never thought about an EV until now. I’m a rancher and the tax incentives are impressive. I would also go for the cheaper model because I do not care at all about the touchscreen or any of the upgrades. But the amount of money I would save in fuel would be impressive. Obviously I would not use it to haul cattle, but I will use my super duty for that. This truck would be my every day workhorse since in reality I only haul cattle 15 to 20 times a year. The only thing that could make it better is if it is able to handle a gooseneck/hay spear.
Damn ok that trunk is handy. Wife complains to me "get rid of your stupid tool box and get that cover thing!". No woman I like people to think I have tools and man stuff in there
buying ford stock!!
I need a longer range!!! I want to take my truck on trips it would take me a day to leave my state
Towing and charging shouldn't be a huge issue for most people - the majority of truck owners will be driving in urban or suburna settings - definitely less than 300 miles a day! This is a great choice for small businesses and tradespeople who need to regularly haul goods. Also remember that electric cars are cheaper to operate and maintain than comparably priced gas cars.
I want an ev but there is almost no charging stations around
Original was a V8 supercharged. They should of called it something else. It's destroys that trucks legacy
Bro come on, I am not trying to insult you, but it is your responsibility to make sure all information you are providing is accurate. The range is 300 miles WITH maximum capacity, NOT without.
This is not ready to replace my current truck
Can I, as a consumer, buy the base work truck version of the Lightning? Or is that completely restricted to fleet sales?
I think using the Lightning nameplate was the right call. The electric connection is self evident and I frequently lament that they didn’t call the Mustang Mach-E the Thunderbird for the same reason.
Can it be lifted?
Bluecruise... cant resist to write into the blue cruise
waste of money.. I can see having an electric car for everyday go to work and in town running around but a pickup is expected to tow, be loaded and have range for everyday work.. imagine what the tow range will be when towing a 8000 pound RV trailer..100 miles? honestly stupid..I live in a rural farming state where pretty much EVERYONE has a pickup.. nobody will buy this
@Dale K. true but honestly, even if we lived in a fantasy Marvel universe where Iron man developed fusion energy, an electric pickup is just a waste of money. Now IF they would pop their heads out, develop a turbo diesel 6 cylinder 1500/2500 with good down low torque (400+) hybrid that has a range of 100 miles on electricity for everyday go to work travel... I'd buy that.
You're on to it. These Guys are looking at the 0-60 and don't know or forgot that obama closed 100s of Power Plants and there will be no more Nuclear built. ~ So you drive in the Day and Charge at night with What??? The extra GIGAWATTS needed to charge at night is not stored in a Magical Cloud . ~ Don't fall for this trap. ~ It will flop.
This looks like crap, I truly hope it fails.
9:00 Anyone got an update to the timeline for the $12,500 new EV credit? I'd totally buy the extended range model.
As a truck guy, this is hugely critical to the truck community. The guys like me who use their trucks as trucks were waiting to see when this would show up: a reasonably priced truck (compared to modern insane truck prices), that has decent range, and functional true truck guy features. It's also very important that it's Ford who did it first with the F-150. As much as I prefer Chevy, The F-150 is the top seller in every category around. If this succeeds, it will permanently change the market and customer perception. Go get 'em Ford!
Wrong. I'm after a base Cybertruck, not for lifestyle but for longevity. A stainless steel vehicle that can take the knocks and won't dent or scratch... A long range EV that can seat 6 adults... The look of the thing is besides the point: it's a utilitarian vehicle that will stand the test of time. That and the base model won't strip out the interior like the F150 will.
So you think the value of a mid 50 000$ bev pick up and a plug in hybrid witch cost 50 000 is not that great?? Do i get this right???
I love that Doug is creaming his dad denims over features that didn't matter at all when it came to the Tesla Cybertruck. "The Lightning has SERIOUS benefits...only a couple minor drawbacks" "The Cybertruck is a toy for rich people." "The Lightning is a carefully thought out truck." "The frunk is an amazing idea where you don't have to have your stuff exposed to vandalism or theft!" I'm sorry - what? This moron. If you don't realize an EV F150 that has the mile range of a Hyundai Elantra isn't a 'lifestyle' product, idk what to tell you dude. Your theory on this "actual-truck-people" market Ford is supposedly going after makes zero sense. You have no idea what you're talking about. Ford, Tesla, and Rivian are all going after the 'lifestyle' truck people because they know that makes up over 90% of truck owners in America. You're just easily duped by marketing. The Lightning (and the Cybertruck for that matter) should only be used by people who never use their trucks for truck things and who never take their truck to the middle of nowhere. The EV game is about 2 things: RANGE(how good of a battery can you build) AND CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. The current battery capabilities of EVs on trucks just ISN'T PRACTICAL, but especially on the Lightning. Ford entered a game they suck at. Either 1. to position their brand or 2. because they are afraid of the Cybertruck. Yours truly, Cybertruck Cuck.
You forgot the lordstown endurance which comes out in September . they already got their beta trucks
I really think you downplayed how big the whole "charging your house with your truck " thing. That is huge specially for places where outages are common like the northeast during snowstorms
The range is 300 with payload.
Hopefully government fleet buys aren’t counted towards the first 200,000 purchases before the tax credit goes away.
THIS...! ...is exactly what red-blooded Americans need in order to change the perception of electric vehicles. Killer speed and extreme functionality.
Cyber truck will not last. Tesla will go back to cars.
Is this Jay Leno's son?
This will change the future of trucks! Ford will sale a bunch of the lightning F150 and like always chevy will copy and fuck it up!!!
Doug is not one of those people who doesn't know what to do with their hands while speaking.. shit his hands actually *do* most of the talking..
@Holman Li hahaha 👍
Scotty Kilmer has a challenger.
“lighting” name brought back on an electric vehicle makes perfect sense to me
I'm very happy to hear that this pickup will have Blues Clues. Can't live without it.
I want to see what towing 7-10k does to the range. Until then, nice idea but no desire to spend three days towing a 5 hour drive. BTW Cybertruck is flat out stupid. I'd be embarrassed to be seen in one.
I can just see all that coal burning just to charge these........
I must admit when Ford stock dipped below $10 I was thinking the company was circling the drain. Boy, was I wrong. It's clear that Ford have a plan, have the technology, have the vision. Not the Ford that made my absolutely BS Ford Escort back in 1985!
Oh look....its a truck for gay people.